December 9, 2007
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Featured Question #121: Wuv... twue wuv... skip to the end
Has our generation become increasingly picky as to who we date or marry?
If our divorce rates are any indication, I think that people have become less choosy. Some people even seem to marry just to have a party, and a few years later, they divorce, messily.
Actually, I don't think I can really answer this question very well because I have never been on a date or married. I have no practical experience with dating or marriage beyond my objective observations. Does that make me too picky? Well, no one's ever really asked me out and I"m not inclined to ask others. The whole asexuality thing, you know? So I don't really consider myself picky at all in light of the fact that I don't have any inclination to date or marry. Conversely, if I were looking for a companion, I would be interested in someone with whom I could have a conversation. I'd be more inclined to find close friends and adopt them in a tribal kind of way than actually date or marry.
It seems to me that qualities people looked for in a mate in previous generations are not necessarily what one looks for now as the basis for a relationship. Not that we no longer look for these things, but that they're not so important any more. So while there were lots of characteristics people looked for in a mate, first and foremost, men might look for a pretty face or someone who could cook and women might look for a provider (and also a pretty face, let's be honest), both might decide they could deal with anything else their partners brought to the mix. Since women are now considered the equals of men, and can provide for themselves, the search for a mate is less contingent on a man's ability to provide and a woman's superficial qualities. Hey, it might even end up being the other way around in some cases... lol
But serious, it may be that the reason marriages don't last as long as they used to any more is because people are still looking for mates based on the old paradigms. Men are still fixated on a pretty face and woman are still looking for someone to take care of them. But then they grow apart because they have nothing in common to keep them together. It's not like a woman is going to stay at home any more and devote all her time to taking care of her husband and the house. And since both sexes have interests outside the house, how much time do they end up spending together? So maybe it's not that people are more picky, it's just that they have more time to develop interests beyond what initially drew them together and less time to actually share those interests. One day they look at each other, point fingers, and say, "You've changed! Who are you? I didn't marry you!"
As our lifespans lengthen, there is more chance of people changing several times throughout their lives. I don't think anyone can go from young adulthood to senior citizen and remain the same person. I know I'm not the same person I was at seventeen that I am now. In fact, I don't think I was the same person four years ago that I am now. The longer we live and the more things we experience, the more we change from one year to the next. Growth is a good thing, but if a person is also married, then they have to make time to share those changes with their loved ones so that in addition to personal growth, there is growth as a couple. I think that people forget that when they join their lives to another's, that they have to work at maintaining that unity throughout their lives if they want it to last. I don't think married people need to share in all the interests of their mate, but ignorance and indifference to a loved one's interests is a sure fire way to end up apart.
BTW, if you didn't get the title, it's from Princess Bride, one of the best movies ever made. You should watch it, and read the book, and own both, and quote from it copiously.
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Jeff and I found each other when we weren't looking. The rest just figured itself out. We both had our "issues" and things that needed to be worked on but as a result of us being together for almost 8 years now, we've both grown individually and as a couple in a relationship. We both help support and accept each other to bring us as individuals to higher levels of consciousness, growth, healing and awareness. Sure we have our tough times and moving from one city to another has been a major stress on us. We find ways to work through things though.
Just like last week something took place and it really psd me off but I finally had to let go of it. I knew Jeff didn't even intend to hurt me and so it was useless to hold a grudge or be vindictive. I just had to let it go and let the energy of the situation release from me because if I wouldn't have, my body would have paid the price. Once I did that, things came back to a center point with us and he knew nothing of what I had done to jump over this situation. It was also energy based. I think it is all too common for couples (relationships or whatever you want to label them) to get in a frame of mind where the ego tries to control instead of allowing hearts to connect. When hearts connect, nothing else is needed.
I wonder if many individuals marry for reasons of their own and these unspoken, perhaps even subconscious motives, have little to do with the other person. This is where the seed of the problem is often planted. Perhaps Margaret Mead had some insight when she said to achieve some measure of wholeness and happiness, one needs three significant couplings in adult life: one to raise children, one to share adventure and the final one, perhaps the most emotionally significant, companionship. It is a fortunate few who can achieve three in one. I think monogamy is part choice and part myth. We are trapped by so many myths, both surface and underlying.
I like the reflections you have shared.
Blessings~
i like the princess bride one of my favorite movies very funny.
i think you're correct in saying people wake up and don't know anyone anymore. im different day to day muchless years later. that's not why i dislike the question though. gunstarhero hit it on the bud why i don't like that question.
I think I can agree with a lot of the things that you stated. I can agree that a lot of women are subconsciously looking for someone to whisk them away and take care of them, but then also they have this glitch where, if he starts to take care of them, they start to feel trapped. Whether it's accurate or no, that's my observation from watching how some of my friends have handled relationships.
I think that being able to keep up with a partner is important. Either you'll get tired of trying to catch up with them, or they'll get bored waiting for you when they reach wherever they're metaphorically going.
Oh look - I agree with you again. My husband and I have always had some similar interests and a lot of separate ones. We know we're going to change and grow, but we plan on giving each other room to do our own thing and, hopefully, to grow together. From the beginning, before we even started dating, he and I have been able to talk to each other incredibly easily. Eventually our friendship grew and I "fell" for him. Our physical chemistry is amazing, but it's based on something much deeper and more spiritual. Our love will outlast the physical flame, and we'll make each other think and laugh as long as we can.
Thanks for your comment and once again this post rocks.
In short, yes indeed I - especially with time- well wait a minute, I think I have always been picky...
It's just that as I age my pickiness focus changed...
case in point (to some stuff you said) at this moment I am so the bread winner...
i second the friendship/spiritual level learning and growing as a foundation before the physical happens in order for not blurring lines and cutting thru illusion
and i am always learning new things about erik-but what do i know?
i know i wanna go watch the princess bride-but such is life and work beckons.
make it a fine one!!
xoxo
Thanks for your input. I really appreciate the suggestions and will put most of them into practice. Have a great day at work!
i have to admit - when i came to the states last august, i had this huge mind state that i would find some sophisticated classy preppy rolling-in-the-dollars kind of man to get married to. then i got to know my ex, and started mucking around meeting people all over the eastern states. it occurred to me that apparently, dorothy, this ain't kansas no more. because you see, in sandton (south africa), my neighborhood is very much pretentious, pompous and you are what the car your driving (which was normally a jag, benz, audi or some other ill-intent expensive car). plus, everyone had a bachelors of this or a masters of that working for some auditing company or was an IT engineer or a basis managing director of XXXX Inc.
however, once i got to know these ranges of americans of different colors and cultures it occurred to me that what am i doing? marrying the man or marrying the status? and as i mention in a previous post, it also occurred to me that i like the man for WHO he is and not what he is. and let's also be honest, a man's status can change - can it not. a pauper can be a king just like a king can be a pheasant - ah, dangerous liasons (i dare say). it reminds me much of that bible quote: the first shall be last and the last shall be first. anywho, so i think that after much introspection and flirting and dating that i have somewhat lingered on the fence on being choosy. also, what i really look for in a husband is "Will he be a good father?" - *sigh* i know, how noble of me.
Harmony - I read a comment you made on Zeal4living's site regarding good and evil. I wrote back regarding your thoughts and wanted to share the link for you to read.
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